Approaching the Astrologer - Part 1 of 3

There is a simple reason why most people generally cannot tell the difference between astrology, palmistry and psychic services. They never had the opportunity to be educated in it. Most people just never see themselves trying to read up in order to know more about these subjects. So they never get the best of astrology or the astrologers. Thus people don't know enough to talk about astrology yet they can't stop NOT talking about what little they know about it. Well no more. By the time you go through this article, you should be in a better position to relate to an astrologer more effectively.

To begin with, every astrologer needs to have the following minimum data: your sex at birth date birth time and birth place. Any astrologer doing your birth chart without these would not be doing astrology. It's just the basics. It's astrology. With palmistry you offer your palm. With astrology you offer your birth particulars. If your astrologer doesn't ask for them then he might be using some other model for his predictions but it won't be astrology. He might even be pretending. Also the sad part is if you don't have this data then don't go to astrologers. Go to a psychic or some other diviner using other models for their prediction. So do you have your birth data? Check this out first before you even search for an astrologer. And you should have them as reliable as possible because the honest astrologer's work will only be as reliable as the data that you provide him to work with.

The basic idea of needing your birth particulars is because he needs to calculate the astronomical positions for the time that you were born. How did the galaxy look like? That is what the horoscope is about. So the astrologer uses the birth particulars so that he is able to see the configuration of the planets in the zodiac during the precise moment of birth. Astrology uses the picture of the galaxy at your moment of birth as its model to make predictions. Candle-reading diviners use the "configurations" of the melting wax of the burning candle to "see" the things that they interpret into their predictions tea readers see how the tea leaves position themselves at the bottom of your cup to make their predictions and astrology uses the galactic configuration of the planetary bodies for its predictions. So imagine what happens when your astrologer does not get reliable birth particulars to work with? He simply does not get to see the accurate picture of the galactic configuration during the subject's actual birth moment and he simply would not be able to reliably relate what he sees to your true life experiences. So what do you want to do? You want your birth particulars (especially your birth time) as correctly possible.

Now one of the most riveting things in any personal horoscope is what we call the Ascendant. This is the precise degree in the chart that is the "moment of physical birth" based on the time and place of birth you provide. So aside from accurate birth time you want to give the accurate place of birth as well. So the place of birth should be as accurate as possible as well. Knowing the town will do. But if the town is not on the map then give the closest town on the map in order for the astrologer to obtain the latitude and longitude of the birth place. That's why he needs to know the town in the first place. But if you can give him the latitude and longitude of your birth place straight away he won't complain.

What happens if you don't even know your birth date? Then really don't go to an astrologer unless you're ready to go a lengthy process called Birth Rectification. That might take hours if not weeks plus a lot of interaction with you to confirm your most likely chart. What the diligent astrologer (difficult to find them for free) would have to do is to keep on fine-tuning some of your horoscopic positions. He would probably start by placing your ascendant somewhere he thinks relevant and with that he'd try to read the chart as a whole and see if it fits with your life events. If it doesn't or he thinks it's not conclusive enough he'd continue adjusting the chart with other "what if" positions. This part of the work is so specialized that some astrologers offer this service only to other professional astrologers who need this work done for their very important clients.

About the author: Dr Agni has been using astrology for 37 years and has taught astrology for free since 1986, every week, till today. He is adviser to the Institute of Astrological Science, Malaysia, with its website at http://astrologyuniversitymalaysia.com

Approaching the Astrologer - Part 3 of 3

There are numerous other technicalities that the astrologer would go through before he arrives at a mature analysis to make a prediction. But the above are the most basic. You put in a small attempt to understand the above then you're on your way to having a better conversation with your astrologer. And every good astrologer loves to talk technical with his clients because he would be more motivated to show his astrological reasoning and that he's doing a good piece of astrological work. Otherwise he would be blamed for just being psychic (or even pretending) and not doing real astrological work.

When you make use of astrologers you need to know that not everything is a prediction. Sometimes it might be an "explanation" sometimes a "description" and yes sometimes a "prediction". Sometimes it involves dates sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes the astrologer can be very precise because several symbols appear to concur and converge at a specific date (like several separate symbols telling the same story about a specific event). Whereas sometimes it might not be that easy for him to ascertain a specific "moment in time" because of the divergent symbols involved in the "coming event" he should be stating.

If an astrologer has never dealt with you before or if he doesn't know your context then he would normally begin with an overview of an aspect of your interest. For instance assume you provide the astrologer only your birth date time and place together with your name and sex. Nothing else. And you ask a question like "Tell me about my finances." Unless he uses horary techniques in which case you should know that this is not an astrologer's first choice of tools (most astrologers wouldn't want to use that part of their arsenal flippantly) he would prefer to try to answer your question from your personal birth horoscope. But not knowing your "context" he would start off with an overview. He would then give you an honest analysis of what your birth chart would have to say about your "general financial experience in life". However if you were to "offer you context" then just ask a brief but specific question. This can be as simple as "I'm thinking of buying a car but I really don't know. So what does my chart say?"

Try not to "test" the astrologer. Especially if you think you want to prove that astrology doesn't work. You won't get to prove or disprove anything by dealing with one humble astrologer. For all you know the one you're dealing with might not had studied astrology sufficiently himself.

Many astrologers started off with the wrong footing; like many other professionals in many other fields. In their passion for the glamour of being in a certain profession or position, they end up just 'getting into a job'. They stop their studies, they close themselves to new realizations and developments, and their motivation fizzles off. There are good astrologers, and there are not-so-good astrologers, like in almost every other profession. If you have come across a medical doctor with lousy bedside manners, dispensing less than average medical advice than what you expected from a professional, it doesn't mean the whole medical profession is populated by the same personality nor that medicine is fraudulent. It is the same with astrology and the astrologer.

What is important is for people to be responsible for their own open-ness and gullibility. Don't accept or reject anything just because someone else said so. Dare to trust, dare to take risks. In this manner, you are liberated to do what you want and seek advice from anywhere you can. After all, opinions from other professionals are just that; opinions. And you need varied opinions to consider in order for you to make your own mature judgment over things you need to decide.

Try to know more of your personal chart always. As you do this you will get to see a certain "logic" to astrology and will get a feel of how things are being "read". Make friends with your astrologer friend and keep on asking things about your personal life events and its relationship with your personal chart. This doesn't mean that you live by astrology by doing this but you would be exploring a model that supposedly deals with your personal "blueprint". Ask different astrologers about the same issues in your chart and see what others have to say. Do they concur? If not probe and ask why they said things differently. Before long you will find yourself not just knowing better astrology but even knowing more about yourself.

About the author: Dr Agni has been using astrology for 37 years and has taught astrology for free since 1986, every week, till today. He is adviser to the Institute of Astrological Science, Malaysia, with its website at http://astrologyuniversitymalaysia.com

Approaching the Astrologer - Part 1 of 3

There is a simple reason why most people generally cannot tell the difference between astrology, palmistry and psychic services. They never had the opportunity to be educated in it. Most people just never see themselves trying to read up in order to know more about these subjects. So they never get the best of astrology or the astrologers. Thus people don't know enough to talk about astrology yet they can't stop NOT talking about what little they know about it. Well no more. By the time you go through this article, you should be in a better position to relate to an astrologer more effectively.

To begin with, every astrologer needs to have the following minimum data: your sex at birth date birth time and birth place. Any astrologer doing your birth chart without these would not be doing astrology. It's just the basics. It's astrology. With palmistry you offer your palm. With astrology you offer your birth particulars. If your astrologer doesn't ask for them then he might be using some other model for his predictions but it won't be astrology. He might even be pretending. Also the sad part is if you don't have this data then don't go to astrologers. Go to a psychic or some other diviner using other models for their prediction. So do you have your birth data? Check this out first before you even search for an astrologer. And you should have them as reliable as possible because the honest astrologer's work will only be as reliable as the data that you provide him to work with.

The basic idea of needing your birth particulars is because he needs to calculate the astronomical positions for the time that you were born. How did the galaxy look like? That is what the horoscope is about. So the astrologer uses the birth particulars so that he is able to see the configuration of the planets in the zodiac during the precise moment of birth. Astrology uses the picture of the galaxy at your moment of birth as its model to make predictions. Candle-reading diviners use the "configurations" of the melting wax of the burning candle to "see" the things that they interpret into their predictions tea readers see how the tea leaves position themselves at the bottom of your cup to make their predictions and astrology uses the galactic configuration of the planetary bodies for its predictions. So imagine what happens when your astrologer does not get reliable birth particulars to work with? He simply does not get to see the accurate picture of the galactic configuration during the subject's actual birth moment and he simply would not be able to reliably relate what he sees to your true life experiences. So what do you want to do? You want your birth particulars (especially your birth time) as correctly possible.

Now one of the most riveting things in any personal horoscope is what we call the Ascendant. This is the precise degree in the chart that is the "moment of physical birth" based on the time and place of birth you provide. So aside from accurate birth time you want to give the accurate place of birth as well. So the place of birth should be as accurate as possible as well. Knowing the town will do. But if the town is not on the map then give the closest town on the map in order for the astrologer to obtain the latitude and longitude of the birth place. That's why he needs to know the town in the first place. But if you can give him the latitude and longitude of your birth place straight away he won't complain.

What happens if you don't even know your birth date? Then really don't go to an astrologer unless you're ready to go a lengthy process called Birth Rectification. That might take hours if not weeks plus a lot of interaction with you to confirm your most likely chart. What the diligent astrologer (difficult to find them for free) would have to do is to keep on fine-tuning some of your horoscopic positions. He would probably start by placing your ascendant somewhere he thinks relevant and with that he'd try to read the chart as a whole and see if it fits with your life events. If it doesn't or he thinks it's not conclusive enough he'd continue adjusting the chart with other "what if" positions. This part of the work is so specialized that some astrologers offer this service only to other professional astrologers who need this work done for their very important clients.

About the author: Dr Agni has been using astrology for 37 years and has taught astrology for free since 1986, every week, till today. He is adviser to the Institute of Astrological Science, Malaysia, with its website at http://astrologyuniversitymalaysia.com

Approaching the Astrologer - Part 3 of 3

There are numerous other technicalities that the astrologer would go through before he arrives at a mature analysis to make a prediction. But the above are the most basic. You put in a small attempt to understand the above then you're on your way to having a better conversation with your astrologer. And every good astrologer loves to talk technical with his clients because he would be more motivated to show his astrological reasoning and that he's doing a good piece of astrological work. Otherwise he would be blamed for just being psychic (or even pretending) and not doing real astrological work.

When you make use of astrologers you need to know that not everything is a prediction. Sometimes it might be an "explanation" sometimes a "description" and yes sometimes a "prediction". Sometimes it involves dates sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes the astrologer can be very precise because several symbols appear to concur and converge at a specific date (like several separate symbols telling the same story about a specific event). Whereas sometimes it might not be that easy for him to ascertain a specific "moment in time" because of the divergent symbols involved in the "coming event" he should be stating.

If an astrologer has never dealt with you before or if he doesn't know your context then he would normally begin with an overview of an aspect of your interest. For instance assume you provide the astrologer only your birth date time and place together with your name and sex. Nothing else. And you ask a question like "Tell me about my finances." Unless he uses horary techniques in which case you should know that this is not an astrologer's first choice of tools (most astrologers wouldn't want to use that part of their arsenal flippantly) he would prefer to try to answer your question from your personal birth horoscope. But not knowing your "context" he would start off with an overview. He would then give you an honest analysis of what your birth chart would have to say about your "general financial experience in life". However if you were to "offer you context" then just ask a brief but specific question. This can be as simple as "I'm thinking of buying a car but I really don't know. So what does my chart say?"

Try not to "test" the astrologer. Especially if you think you want to prove that astrology doesn't work. You won't get to prove or disprove anything by dealing with one humble astrologer. For all you know the one you're dealing with might not had studied astrology sufficiently himself.

Many astrologers started off with the wrong footing; like many other professionals in many other fields. In their passion for the glamour of being in a certain profession or position, they end up just 'getting into a job'. They stop their studies, they close themselves to new realizations and developments, and their motivation fizzles off. There are good astrologers, and there are not-so-good astrologers, like in almost every other profession. If you have come across a medical doctor with lousy bedside manners, dispensing less than average medical advice than what you expected from a professional, it doesn't mean the whole medical profession is populated by the same personality nor that medicine is fraudulent. It is the same with astrology and the astrologer.

What is important is for people to be responsible for their own open-ness and gullibility. Don't accept or reject anything just because someone else said so. Dare to trust, dare to take risks. In this manner, you are liberated to do what you want and seek advice from anywhere you can. After all, opinions from other professionals are just that; opinions. And you need varied opinions to consider in order for you to make your own mature judgment over things you need to decide.

Try to know more of your personal chart always. As you do this you will get to see a certain "logic" to astrology and will get a feel of how things are being "read". Make friends with your astrologer friend and keep on asking things about your personal life events and its relationship with your personal chart. This doesn't mean that you live by astrology by doing this but you would be exploring a model that supposedly deals with your personal "blueprint". Ask different astrologers about the same issues in your chart and see what others have to say. Do they concur? If not probe and ask why they said things differently. Before long you will find yourself not just knowing better astrology but even knowing more about yourself.

About the author: Dr Agni has been using astrology for 37 years and has taught astrology for free since 1986, every week, till today. He is adviser to the Institute of Astrological Science, Malaysia, with its website at http://astrologyuniversitymalaysia.com

Approaching the Astrologer - Part 1 of 3

There is a simple reason why most people generally cannot tell the difference between astrology, palmistry and psychic services. They never had the opportunity to be educated in it. Most people just never see themselves trying to read up in order to know more about these subjects. So they never get the best of astrology or the astrologers. Thus people don't know enough to talk about astrology yet they can't stop NOT talking about what little they know about it. Well no more. By the time you go through this article, you should be in a better position to relate to an astrologer more effectively.

To begin with, every astrologer needs to have the following minimum data: your sex at birth date birth time and birth place. Any astrologer doing your birth chart without these would not be doing astrology. It's just the basics. It's astrology. With palmistry you offer your palm. With astrology you offer your birth particulars. If your astrologer doesn't ask for them then he might be using some other model for his predictions but it won't be astrology. He might even be pretending. Also the sad part is if you don't have this data then don't go to astrologers. Go to a psychic or some other diviner using other models for their prediction. So do you have your birth data? Check this out first before you even search for an astrologer. And you should have them as reliable as possible because the honest astrologer's work will only be as reliable as the data that you provide him to work with.

The basic idea of needing your birth particulars is because he needs to calculate the astronomical positions for the time that you were born. How did the galaxy look like? That is what the horoscope is about. So the astrologer uses the birth particulars so that he is able to see the configuration of the planets in the zodiac during the precise moment of birth. Astrology uses the picture of the galaxy at your moment of birth as its model to make predictions. Candle-reading diviners use the "configurations" of the melting wax of the burning candle to "see" the things that they interpret into their predictions tea readers see how the tea leaves position themselves at the bottom of your cup to make their predictions and astrology uses the galactic configuration of the planetary bodies for its predictions. So imagine what happens when your astrologer does not get reliable birth particulars to work with? He simply does not get to see the accurate picture of the galactic configuration during the subject's actual birth moment and he simply would not be able to reliably relate what he sees to your true life experiences. So what do you want to do? You want your birth particulars (especially your birth time) as correctly possible.

Now one of the most riveting things in any personal horoscope is what we call the Ascendant. This is the precise degree in the chart that is the "moment of physical birth" based on the time and place of birth you provide. So aside from accurate birth time you want to give the accurate place of birth as well. So the place of birth should be as accurate as possible as well. Knowing the town will do. But if the town is not on the map then give the closest town on the map in order for the astrologer to obtain the latitude and longitude of the birth place. That's why he needs to know the town in the first place. But if you can give him the latitude and longitude of your birth place straight away he won't complain.

What happens if you don't even know your birth date? Then really don't go to an astrologer unless you're ready to go a lengthy process called Birth Rectification. That might take hours if not weeks plus a lot of interaction with you to confirm your most likely chart. What the diligent astrologer (difficult to find them for free) would have to do is to keep on fine-tuning some of your horoscopic positions. He would probably start by placing your ascendant somewhere he thinks relevant and with that he'd try to read the chart as a whole and see if it fits with your life events. If it doesn't or he thinks it's not conclusive enough he'd continue adjusting the chart with other "what if" positions. This part of the work is so specialized that some astrologers offer this service only to other professional astrologers who need this work done for their very important clients.

About the author: Dr Agni has been using astrology for 37 years and has taught astrology for free since 1986, every week, till today. He is adviser to the Institute of Astrological Science, Malaysia, with its website at http://astrologyuniversitymalaysia.com

Approaching the Astrologer - Part 3 of 3

There are numerous other technicalities that the astrologer would go through before he arrives at a mature analysis to make a prediction. But the above are the most basic. You put in a small attempt to understand the above then you're on your way to having a better conversation with your astrologer. And every good astrologer loves to talk technical with his clients because he would be more motivated to show his astrological reasoning and that he's doing a good piece of astrological work. Otherwise he would be blamed for just being psychic (or even pretending) and not doing real astrological work.

When you make use of astrologers you need to know that not everything is a prediction. Sometimes it might be an "explanation" sometimes a "description" and yes sometimes a "prediction". Sometimes it involves dates sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes the astrologer can be very precise because several symbols appear to concur and converge at a specific date (like several separate symbols telling the same story about a specific event). Whereas sometimes it might not be that easy for him to ascertain a specific "moment in time" because of the divergent symbols involved in the "coming event" he should be stating.

If an astrologer has never dealt with you before or if he doesn't know your context then he would normally begin with an overview of an aspect of your interest. For instance assume you provide the astrologer only your birth date time and place together with your name and sex. Nothing else. And you ask a question like "Tell me about my finances." Unless he uses horary techniques in which case you should know that this is not an astrologer's first choice of tools (most astrologers wouldn't want to use that part of their arsenal flippantly) he would prefer to try to answer your question from your personal birth horoscope. But not knowing your "context" he would start off with an overview. He would then give you an honest analysis of what your birth chart would have to say about your "general financial experience in life". However if you were to "offer you context" then just ask a brief but specific question. This can be as simple as "I'm thinking of buying a car but I really don't know. So what does my chart say?"

Try not to "test" the astrologer. Especially if you think you want to prove that astrology doesn't work. You won't get to prove or disprove anything by dealing with one humble astrologer. For all you know the one you're dealing with might not had studied astrology sufficiently himself.

Many astrologers started off with the wrong footing; like many other professionals in many other fields. In their passion for the glamour of being in a certain profession or position, they end up just 'getting into a job'. They stop their studies, they close themselves to new realizations and developments, and their motivation fizzles off. There are good astrologers, and there are not-so-good astrologers, like in almost every other profession. If you have come across a medical doctor with lousy bedside manners, dispensing less than average medical advice than what you expected from a professional, it doesn't mean the whole medical profession is populated by the same personality nor that medicine is fraudulent. It is the same with astrology and the astrologer.

What is important is for people to be responsible for their own open-ness and gullibility. Don't accept or reject anything just because someone else said so. Dare to trust, dare to take risks. In this manner, you are liberated to do what you want and seek advice from anywhere you can. After all, opinions from other professionals are just that; opinions. And you need varied opinions to consider in order for you to make your own mature judgment over things you need to decide.

Try to know more of your personal chart always. As you do this you will get to see a certain "logic" to astrology and will get a feel of how things are being "read". Make friends with your astrologer friend and keep on asking things about your personal life events and its relationship with your personal chart. This doesn't mean that you live by astrology by doing this but you would be exploring a model that supposedly deals with your personal "blueprint". Ask different astrologers about the same issues in your chart and see what others have to say. Do they concur? If not probe and ask why they said things differently. Before long you will find yourself not just knowing better astrology but even knowing more about yourself.

About the author: Dr Agni has been using astrology for 37 years and has taught astrology for free since 1986, every week, till today. He is adviser to the Institute of Astrological Science, Malaysia, with its website at http://astrologyuniversitymalaysia.com